There is a saint who is the President of East Timor. This country seems to have enjoyed peace and good relations with Indonesia in the past ten years since it won its independence from Indonesia. The man is very wise and caring, and is very pragmatic at maintaining this neighborly relationship with Indonesia. And central to this, is the forgiveness of people who oppressed East Timor between 1975 and 1999.

The interviewer here, is cute... but is rather malicious and headstrong in how she wishes to press the president for vindictive policies to "punish" those who hurt the country. She somehow doesn't see that these kinds of policies could easily return the region to a violent struggle struggle between the two nations.

The first segment of this broadcast, can be found here.