Christopher vanDyck
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Tue 19 Aug 2008
Better to marry an age mate
Posted by Christopher vanDyck under at 9:22 am

Hmmm... to continue on what no doubt will be a series of posts about parents and children... and adults and children in general....

Let's see... how can I approach this statement I'm about to make in a ginger manner?

Feminism has been bad for men; and the practices of single mothers have been bad for boys who grow up to be men.

That's a start.

It's so interesting to see this interplay between women and men in the usa. Women are often petulant when it comes to discussing men. They will make snide comments about them. There's a passive aggressive attitude that often comes out.

I understand that it is difficult to get and keep employment in fields which have been dominated primarily by another gender. People of a different gender have a different approach to their tasks, and sometimes there can be some serious moments where there is a falling out, only because the newcomer doesn't fall into the same patterns of behavior, or have the same social customs which the people of the primary gender in the field have. I have experienced that situation myself.

But women's snobbish attitude towards men goes beyond just their experiences in the workplace. It's a lot more deep-seated than that.

What I have deduced is that the source of this social friction seems to be the decision of young women to, by and large, seek out the affections of older men when they are dating and marrying. Women thus adopt social patterns where they learn to act as the follower rather than the leader - as the beneficiary, rather than as the benefactor. Men on the other hand are taught to be independent and self reliant, and this gives them more ability later in life to exert influence in their society.

On the whole, women would do far better to seek out age mates when they marry. This generation gap in a long term domestic partnership is often really unhealthy. A twenty year old is at a different stage of maturity than a thirty year old, who is certainly not in the same place in life as the forty year old. The younger person in such a marriage can easily start seeing herself (or himself) as being mentally unstable - only because her youthful way of thinking and reasoning contrasts sharply with the more mature wit of the older person. The older individual, on the other hand, can easily start seeing himself (or herself) as a workhorse - he has more responsibility heaped on his shoulders than he can comfortably handle. None of these perceptions would ever solidify if those in the marriage were age mates. Certainly many people can make marriages work, even though there is a hefty gap in years. But many cannot.

Now, it is certainly true that there is a profound natural attraction between people of different ages. We are schooled in this sort of interaction as children. People with more years of experience in life adore doting over the young. And the young blossom under the care and mentorship of those from earlier generations. Because we tend to become bemused about all these different aspects of human affection, and many folks blur them all together awkwardly with the term "sexual attraction," we tend to lack sound judgement when we choose a person to date... and some people even carry that mistake forward with them into the future when they marry someone - when there are irreconcilable personality differences.

So how does this relate to my first statement "feminism has been bad for men"? Well, the truth is, that young women who seek to marry for money, or seek to marry the dashing man in his thirties or forties are often hurting themselves. And in doing this, they themselves are responsible for the effects of that decision that they have made. They are training themselves to be followers rather than leaders. They are resigning themselves to a life of eternal childhood.

And the ironic thing that I've seen is that such women who end up getting a divorce after a bad experience with a man in this manner, if they keep any boys from the marriage - they will oftentimes perpetuate the problems which they see in male culture to another generation in how they raise those kids after their husband is no longer around. This is especially true when the boys enter their teenage years. The women who have been injured in bad marriages have a stereotype about men. And they try to fit their male children into the parameters of this stereotype. Stereotyping someone is the opposite of facilitating them. A person who facilitates a child does not see that child as a static individual, who has a predetermined future. A person who facilitates or mentors or enables, delights in seeing that which has not come into being yet. That kind person sees a bud and dreams about it changing into a flower someday - sees a grub, and is in wonder about the process by which it will metamorphosize into a butterfly. In contrast, a person who stereotypes, simply throws up her or his hands and gives up. A stereotyper does not see personal weaknesses in her seige as being cute, but rather as harbingers of bad things to come.

Again, I cannot emphasize enough that boys need good male role models and mentors, just like girls need good robust experiences with nurturing women.


note: When I am describing this disfunction I see in marriages, I am mostly describing the effects that I see in what most would call a "wealthy community." In most large cities, I think people are more prudent about how they marry.












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Anonymous Says:
September 15th, 2008 at 5:49 pm

Seriously, a marriage that occurs within feminist ideals would be a marriage between equals, lovers, partners, not this uneven marriage which you (quite rightly) caution against.

Also, stereotyping is human nature, and quite independent of whether a women is a feminist (as seen in your strange stereotype of what you think a feminist is).





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Christopher vanDyck Says:
September 15th, 2008 at 8:32 pm

Well, guest, "feminism" is a word that can mean many different things to many different people. It's a very flexible word. More noble folks would use the word as a synonym for "humanism." I certainly agree with humanist ideals. I believe in equality, and in nurture, and in kindness and goodness - but I don't see these things as feminine traits - they are human traits. And they are expressed differently by males and females.

In general, I see feminism as being a competitive movement. And one tragic aspect of competition is the habit of degrading members of the other "team." In this manner, feminism has really done a lot to paint males in the usa with stigma over the last few decades. And unfortunately, these fibs told about men get integrated into a male stereotype that even men eventually begin to buy into, as they hang their heads in their shame.

And this stereotype of men gets expressed in tangible ways - such as an unequal treatment of men and women under the law. Do you realize that 93% of people in the state prison system in the usa are male? That's largely because of this prejudice against men... it's an effect of the stereotype which men are lumped into. Even some psychologists have come to say things like testosterone promotes arrogance and other negative traits. It's gotten really absurd.

So, you see, I would tell you that I don't stereotype feminism or women; quite the opposite, I would insist rather, that feminism promotes a stereotype of maleness. Do you see the difference?





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Anonymous Says:
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Anonymous Says:
May 7th, 2009 at 1:51 pm

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Christopher vanDyck Says:
May 7th, 2009 at 2:16 pm

Dear guest,

There are qualitative differences between people and groups. And there are patterns of behavior you can see, and point out to others. It's not stereotyping to do this. To stereotype, is to take that generalisation, and then to say that every person you meet of that group is going to be to a greater or lesser degree described by that generalisation.

One has to understand one's society, and how it works. One does oneself a disservice if one refuses to be frank as one muses on things, and as one talks about matters - only because it's not politically correct to have certain stances or opinions. This attitude can lead to a person not ever able to get their minds around what is happening in the world around them.

BTW, previous commenters, what is "pizzle.co.uk," and "modellaunch.com"? As you've noticed, I de-hotlinked them. It's fine for folks to leave links to their personal webpages, or even to their business, if they explain what they are doing clearly in the comment, and they can persuade me that it would be proper to let the links stay. But this blog is generally not going to be available as a platform for commercial advertising. As you note... there is no advertising placed by me on my pages (except to my own webstore), because I have a strong conviction that advertising on the internet is kind of like what air pollution is to a city's skies.



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